216: Mobile Home Parks & Parking: Cash Flow Secrets

 

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Discover the hidden potential of mobile home parks and parking lots: two often-overlooked but highly profitable real estate assets. In this episode of The Richer Geek Podcast, seasoned Florida investor Kevin Bupp, host of Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast and bestselling author, pulls back the curtain on a powerful alternative to traditional real estate investment strategies.

With over $300 million in real estate transactions and decades of experience, Kevin shares why he pivoted beyond single-family and multifamily properties. He breaks down the unique advantages of mobile home parks and parking facilities, including their stickier tenant base, lower maintenance demands, and resilience in shifting economic climates, making them a compelling option for consistent cash flow and long-term wealth.

In this episode, we're discussing…

  • Untapped Potential: Mobile home parks and parking lots offer lucrative, often overlooked real estate opportunities beyond traditional multifamily and fix-and-flip.

  • Stable, Long-Term Holds: These asset classes are ideal for wealth preservation and consistent "mailbox money" with a long-term (10+ year) investment horizon.

  • "Sticky" Tenants & Reduced Maintenance: Mobile home parks have lower turnover due to resident homeownership, and residents handle their own home maintenance.

  • Operational Efficiencies: Fragmented "mom and pop" mobile home parks present opportunities for professional management to boost efficiency and revenue.

  • Recession-Resistant Housing: Mobile home parks provide crucial affordable housing, making them more resilient during economic downturns.

  • Straightforward Parking Investments: Parking lots and garages offer a simpler investment model with potentially lower maintenance needs.

  • Passive Income Opportunities: Funds focused on these alternative assets provide passive income for investors seeking less hands-on management.

   Resources from Kevin

    LinkedIn | Sunrise Capital Investors | Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast 

   Resources from Mike and Nichole

   Gateway Private Equity Group |  Nic's guide | Franchise With Bob

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Mike Stohler: Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Richer Geek Podcast. Today we have Kevin Bupp. He is a Florida -based real estate investor, top Apple podcast host. We will talk a little bit about his podcast. He's a bestselling author of the Cash Flow Investor. He has over $300 million in real estate transactions under his belt.

We're gonna talk a little bit about not the normal stuff, but mobile home parks, parking lots, different types of asset classes. How are you doing Kevin?

Kevin Bupp: Mike, I'm doing good. Excited to be here. Thanks for having me.

Mike Stohler: I love dealing in other types of assets. I don't have so many multifamily people, and I can only have so many fix-and-flip people on. You know, it's like...

Kevin Bupp: Yeah.

Mike Stohler: But mobile homes and parking lots, for those of us into real estate investing, I've always heard great things about mobile home parks.

We'll talk about that in a little bit. Give us a little bit of a story. How did you get involved in real estate investing? Who are you?

Kevin Bupp: Yeah, no, sure thing. Real estate kind of found me at the age of 19.

At that point, I was attending barn evenings, going to community college, trying to figure out what I wanted to do when I grew up. And just happened to meet a local real estate investor through the girl I was dating. He was dating her mother.

I happened to get to know him, and he really became my rich dad, the best way to put it. I grew up in a blue-collar family. He always had enough but didn't have excess. It's all relative though. You kind of don't know what you don't know.

But it was good. Both my parents worked. Neither I'd gone to college, that wasn't really expected of me either. Just get a job at the post office, UPS, something like that's got benefits and, you'd be good to go. And again, nothing wrong with that, it just wasn't really ingrained in me.

I knew that if I waited until college, I probably would've partied out the first semester and wasted everyone's money and time. I just went to community college but with no direction. I went there and started taking classes, not really sure what I was excited about, what I wanted to do.

Although I had been entrepreneurial for many years leading up to that, I always couldn't wait to work and make money. I had a paper route at the age of 12, would go shovel so in the winter, mow grass, wash cars, and then learn how to install electronics into my brother and his friend's cars, head units, amplifiers, all that kind of stuff.

In my parents' garage, I did anything to make money. I just wanted to make my own money so I could buy the things I wanted and not necessarily wait till Christmas to get maybe one of those things, right? I wanted to go out and go buy skateboards, BMX bikes, dirt bikes or all that material crap that kids wanted, right? Fast forward I met David and. I saw a different lifestyle. He invited me to a conference after a couple months of knowing him, and I was hooked. I was around a lot of people that were making a lot of money, and I didn't feel like they were much smarter than me.

They just knew a little bit more than I did. Dave the solopreneur, he owned 40 units total. He'd been doing it for a while, owned a number of free and clear, so he had a pretty good lifestyle. I basically offered to come work for him for free.

I saw that he had some struggles with technology. He was about 25 years older than I. He was a single guy as far as running his business. He wouldn't return calls all that quickly. There's areas where he didn't want to have any employees. He chose to work alone, but I saw areas I could help him.

So I kind of said, "Hey, can I come work for you?" Otherwise, I'm not gonna learn this. I would love to add value to you in whatever it might be. I pointed out a few areas where I thought I could help him, and that morphed into just basically being. I would drop two by fours off at job sites.

I would pick up leases, get coffee, I would do whatever's, return phone calls, things like that. I would scour MLS listings, do that kind of stuff. Through those activities of about a year and a half of working for him, I'd tend to bar Thursday, Friday, Saturday night.

Had 12 credits, switches, and a heavy load at school. So I had a lot of time during the day to be around him and be in his business, and learn what he was doing. That was really it. That kicked it off. That was 19. So at the age of 20, I bought my first property with some bartending money I had saved up as well as one of his relationships in his network.

I got to know one private investor, a private lender. They helped fund the first project. They kind of gave me a hard money loan. I put up some of my own skin in the game, did that first property and then we were off and running. I really don't like reinventing wheels. I like to kind of see, "Hey, this system's working." I just modeled what he had taught me, and in my early twenties, put up quite a big portfolio of single-family properties. Then morphed into a smaller multifamily and then started dabbling in different things. Bought some industrial, which wasn't sexy back then.

It wasn't a cool thing to do. Bought some retail, bought some office, bought some medical office. Just was trying to find what I felt was an even more scalable model, you know?

Fast forward 2008, I pretty much lost everything down here in Florida that I had owned.

Went through the recession, had to go through a rebuild phase. About three years went by of just damage control, 2008, 2011. Didn't buy anything, just tried to manage, keep my head above water, and work through the damage and chaos that was happening. But 2011 really is kind of version two and it kind of brings us to today.

The fire got relayed. I started figuring out the next step in this journey. How was I gonna rebuild? I met a gentleman named Randy who happened to be in a known mobile home park. It was never on my radar. It was one of the asset classes I'd never considered.

Mike Stohler: Yeah.

Kevin Bupp: I didn't know anybody that owned one. It was never talked about. They were all around me, but I just never really considered it. It wasn't like one of the main food groups in real estate. I met with him for lunch, and after that two-hour lunch, I was hooked enough to learn about this, buy one, and see if it's as good as what Randy says. Anyway, it took me about a year to buy one. That was 2012, I bought my first park. Now fast forward, we've gone in 18 states. Today we've got about 3,400 lots under ownership of management.

On top of that, as we talked about before we started recording, we also added another vertical to our business about four years ago, which is parking. They've got a lot of similarities. Our mobile home parks folks park their mobile home there. It doesn't move, but it's parked there.

They rent the land from us. In parking lots or parking garages, folks obviously drive their vehicles and either rent it for a few minutes, hours, days, a few months, and pay us for the space that they're renting. Lots of similarities, lots of carry over. Those are the two things that we specialize in today. They've had a lot of fun doing it.

Mike Stohler: I'm kind of smiling because I'm like going, " Man, I like the fact that the parking lot doesn't have tenants." That's what kind of attracted me to hotels. It's like man, just being a landlord. You don't have the services like the plumbing, all these other things that could go wrong in parking lots. You just gotta reseal it and take people's money.

Kevin Bupp: Yeah, it could be more, a little bit more complex than not in the parking. You know, a surface parking lot is just an asphalt lot. You are correct for the most part. There's really not much there other than asphalt and maybe some curbing and restriping, potholes that pop up here and there.

Then some equipment if you've got paid equipment, but a garage is a little bit of a different animal depending where you own them. Like I said, we own something in Phoenix. I mean, just Arizona weather is very friendly to concrete and steel. It's not corrosive.

You guys don't get much rain there. The garage that we own there is, I think, 65 years old and it looks fantastic. The concrete's in great shape. It steals a great shape. But if you take that same garage and put it up in Minneapolis, within 20 years it would be having stress cracks and crumbles, and corrosion internally and things like that. A lot more upkeep depending on where you own it. Generally speaking, they're pretty straightforward and somewhat easy to maintain. There's elevators and things like that as well, but generally speaking, pretty straightforward investments.

Mike Stohler: Yeah. That's exactly what people want. And ladies and gentlemen, if you were listening to Kevin, he's saying that he had mentorship. He even worked for free to learn. I can't stress how important that is. Don't just go to HGTV, watch it for an hour and say, "Hey, I can become a real estate investor."

It may not work for you. You're gonna pay for teaching one way or the other. You might as well learn from someone like Kevin, who's been there, done that. Learn from his mistakes. And why invest on your own, when you can invest with Kevin and just be passive. Why were you attracted to mobile home parks?

I'm sure a lot of listeners out there are going, " Oh yeah, why would I ever?" Why is it such a great investment?

Kevin Bupp: Yeah. Backing up to my phase two, my rebuild, I was trying to figure out how I was gonna rebuild this empire and do it better the second time around.

I thought the path that I had already chosen was gonna be multifamily. It just had a better scale of economy than a bunch of a few hundred single-family homes spread all out five counties. It was a nightmare to manage. It was very inefficient with sales and leasing.

Nowadays, there's a little more technology to manage that stuff. You can do virtual showings, virtual lockbox, all that kind of stuff, and that just didn't exist back then. It was just a pain having sales leasing people out there in the field, driving from house to house, showing it, locking it back up, all this kind of crap.

I felt it was fairly confidential. I'd owned a number of multifamily buildings, and they just ran smooth more efficiently. Slightly different tenant base, but all, through and through. If it's in a market that has a high demand for housing, affordable housing, that's it.

That's a very good fit. That's why I thought it was gonna be, and so I went into this meeting with this gentleman, Randy, who owned these parks. I went in just knowing that's where I was gonna go. I was introduced to Randy because he was a banker for 30 years and in front of mine, I said, "Hey, just go talk to Randy."

He's a good guy, good resource, has a big network and is just a good person putting in your Rolodex. That was it. I didn't even know you in mobile home parks actually. But during the two-hour lunch meeting, he really kind of pivoted the conversation to compare mobile home parks to multifamily and why they were better.

That's kind of how he drew the conversation. One was that the resident bases are a lot stickier. The folks own their homes, and they tend to stay quite some time, sometimes decades, right? They treat it just like a single family home. In fact, we've got many residents in some of our communities that have been there for over 50 years.

That was attractive to me. Whereas an apartment average tenancy is 12 to 18 months. It's pretty easy for folks just to get up and leave in an apartment, right? If they decide that they don't wanna stay anymore, they can put the mattress on the roof of their car, fill their car with their belongings, and be out in the middle of the night.

That wasn't as easy with mobile home parks because these homes, while they're mobile, they're not very mobile. They get strapped down, they anchor to the ground, the wheels come off, they get blocked up. So they typically don't leave; when they move into a community, they typically stay there forever.

That was a big one. The turnover was a lot lower, creating lower ongoing maintenance and expenses associated with running the operation. Another big one was just who's responsible for what. They own their own home.

If their roof leaks, if their plumbing leaks, if their HVAC breaks, they're not calling us. It's not our responsibility. They're managing it just a homeowner would. That's a big piece of it, there's a lot of others. Those are the big ones that really caught my attention.

One of the other big ones I think that really pushed me over the edge was like, and this is changing very quickly. 10 plus years ago, when we started buying the stuff, 12 years ago more exactly. It was a very fragmented space. There were some big operators, but very few, so lots of mom and pops, and there's a lot of inefficiencies that exist when just the original developers owned the thing for 30 years.

They're not necessarily keeping up with market rents. They're not keeping a very close watch on expenses, and they're just not running it fully, like a business owner might be running it most of the time. He really pointed out a lot of inefficiencies there and the opportunity to go in and do things better.

Whether it be billing back for utilities though, very commonly, when a lot of these parks were built, water and sewer just wasn't a significant expense and so commonly. How are these things managed? Is that someone's gonna pay $300 a month?

That also included water, sewer, trash. The landlord basically covered the overhead of that expense. But guess what? Trash might be a fixed cost. The water and sewer is not right. It's based on usage. And if someone doesn't have to pay for something like that, number one, utilities are expensive.

Now, water and sewer is a very expensive commodity, if someone doesn't have to pay for it. They tend to abuse it, right? You got people that have flappers in their toilets that have been running for months or years, right? Just wasting thousands of gallons of water. They take hour-long showers, all this stuff.

That's a big lever for us. So we'll go into communities, where they might have a $150,000 annual water bill, and we'll go and install meters at each individual site and basically read the meters on a monthly basis and bill it back according to each person's usage, and literally be able to drop that savings to the bottom line.

That literally comes off the expense side of the P&L, just by doing that one lever. There's multiple other levers like that are fairly common when you take it over from an old mom and pop. But really he piqued my interest in a number of ways and set me on this journey to go, basically buy one. I was like, kind of committed to buying one and I did. It took me about a year to buy one, but I bought the first one in 2012 and here we are today, so we own assets in a lot of different states and I don't have, I think probably about 50 parks in total going full cycle on about 20 of 'em.

It's been a fun ride. Learned a lot along the way.

Mike Stohler: Absolutely. Because it's affordable housing, mobile home parks tend to be a little more recession proof. They're a little more than like an A class property or hotels and other different things seem a little bit better.

Would you agree?

Kevin Bupp: Yeah. There's three quality standards I would say. This is applicable to apartment complexes and even single family homes, some divisions. You got kind of the wrong side of the track.

No one wants to be in a bad part of town and all. Mobile home parks are there, apartments are there, single family homes are that. Then you got the blue-collar, hardworking blue collar professionals who want their kids to go to good schools.

They want to do the best, but they're working at Walmart as managers or service jobs. Then you got the wealthy part of town and there's a class of brand new, expensive apartments. There's executive style homes there. Even then there's mobile home parks on that side of town, right?

They might be 55 plus retirement type communities. You guys have a lot of those out in Arizona. They're not necessarily affordable; some might be, but a lot aren't. They're like lifestyle communities. They've got three swimming pools. They've got activities directors, they've got shuffleboard, they've got golf, they've got all this stuff.

Right? And they're expensive. It's not poor people that are living there. We tend to fall in the middle of that camp. How I like to say this is that, we wanna buy communities that are in the good school districts, they're in good parts of town, that have people that desire clean, safe, and affordable living options.

If you take any mobile home park that we own in any state and you compare it to what would be the comparable, call it, B class apartment, community, right? Something that was built in the last 20, 25 years. Almost always you'll find that our communities are about 30% less than what it would be to live in a comparable apartment unit and typically our units are bigger. They're on average about 1,100-1,200 square feet in size, three bedrooms, two bathrooms. If you can't afford to live in one of our mobile home communities in that respect, whatever market it might be, there's truly not a more affordable option. You might be able to find a studio apartment in the wrong side of town and cram your entire family into it. That might be an option, but truly meaning like a normal size unit, we are the best, most affordable option. In fact, most of the time our units are actually nicer than that of what you might get in that comparable B unit apartment complex.

They use the same standards that they built stick boat homes with. Literally, the fit and finishes on the inside of these newer homes.

Mike Stohler: Oh, yeah.

Kevin Bupp: The same types of countertop material, cabinet material flooring.

They've got central heat and air, LED lighting, all that. You get a lot of bang for your buck. If you can't afford to live there, there's really not many other options for you to live. There's not. Even that trickle down effect happens if you can't afford to live.

That B class apartment or if you were renting a house, now we get this trickle-down effect. Like it all kinds of stops in these mobile home communities. It's a great option. We do great when times are good, and we do even better when times are bad. We don't see periods where we go through.

We've never had to give out concessions, move in, get two free months or anything like that, or free big screen tv. That just doesn't exist in our industry at all because what we have is in high demand, and there's not a lot of it.

Mike Stohler: Ladies and gentlemen, that's why you see that a lot of people, when they go from fix-and-flip to single-family tenants and then most people want to get into multifamily, and this is just another way, another avenue, another asset class. It might be pretty good.

What's your advice for beginning investors? I always say find a mentor, maybe become an LPR joint venture partner first, learn the ropes. What is your best advice for beginning investors that are listening now and say, "Man, I have maybe one or two". How do I grow? What's going on?

Kevin Bupp: Yeah. I think there's a couple ways that we can approach this. First and foremost, there's a lot of information out there. For anyone that has an excuse like, "I don't know how to do it" or "I can't figure it out," you haven't looked hard enough. There's an overwhelming amount of information and most of anything you wanna learn nowadays real estate investing or stock market trading or learn how to be a DIY electrician and any of that stuff. You can get about 95% and probably 98% of the way there. You might not have the certification or the paper that says that you're legally allowed to be doing what you're doing, but you can learn it between, podcasts, between that and YouTube.

Those two things alone, the information's there, most of it is free and, and it's readily accessible. With that being said, all of us learn differently. For me, I can watch videos. I can listen to podcasts and all that, but I learn a lot better by doing. For people like me, maybe it's a, "Hey, learn the basics."

You'll spend time diving into podcasts and YouTube videos, but then really, hone in on a few people that they're doing what I'm doing. They're already years ahead of me, but then identify where I might be able to add value to their business. I don't know what that means for you, right?

Whoever's listening here, what's your unique skillset? What do you do well? How might that be applicable to who's doing what you wanna be doing? Like they're five years ahead of you and you might be able to help them. In their growth trajectory, but in the intern, they can help you learn the basics of their business , and how they've built what they have.

I think that opportunity exists. You gotta figure out what value proposition you bring to the table. It's not, again, I get a lot of people that reach out to me, I'm sure you do as well. Hey, how can I pick your brain? or this, that, and the other.

Kevin Bupp: You better make yourself stand out. Find out, learn a lot about that person, and then find out how your one little unique thing that you do really well can be applicable to their life and actually make their life better, right? Because they're already way ahead of you already.

You gotta figure out a way to create a compelling pitch for them to even wanna listen to who you are, what you might offer, and how that could benefit them. But I think just, again, aligning yourself with individuals that are doing what you want to do. That also might not just be one person that, might be a group or a community of people that are where you want to be, that are talking about it, that are around it all the time, that are just living and breathing it on a daily basis.

And again, there's no excuse to that either. You can go to meetup.com or the many other venues to find out where these live groups are happening on a weekly or monthly basis in my immediate marketplace. And guess what? If you live in a small town and there's not one happening there, drive an hour and a half to the next biggest town where there's one happening, right?

I don't take excuses lightly. There's a will, there's a way. The information is out there and it's available for you, most of it being free. Utilize it, leverage it and make shit happen.

Mike Stohler: That's right.

Yeah. I got started, I called the PG days pre-Google days. Buying a house was easy, how to be a landlord. I'm like, "Well, I can't Google it." So, ladies, gentlemen, you don't have an excuse. Us old people that got started way back when in small towns we might have a little bit of an excuse, but I kept it going.

And learn from the mistakes. Kevin, let's talk about what you have going on now. Any syndication funds, your website, people go on. How do they find out and say, "You know what? I want to get into it and I wanna learn." What do you get going on now?

Kevin Bupp: Yeah, we operate funds, Reg D 506(c) offerings, accredited investors only.

We've been operating funds now for about 10 years. We do have a current offering open. We opened it up towards the end of last year. Currently, it's a $100 million fund. It's got about, I think about $120 million worth of assets in it.

And we'll probably work to wrap that fund up sometime next year. But we always have a new fund. We always have one kind of coming behind it. We're steady in our growth trajectory. We've got big goals. What we want to buy makes sense. We take our time and we're patient with finding the right deals that fit our portfolio and fit our buy box.

But again, most of our capital comes from high net worth credit investors. Folks that are successful in other areas of life, they might even be a real estate investor. Maybe they just figured out they don't want to do it personally. They don't want to do the dirty work, right? They don't want to build a real estate company.

They don't wanna be in the trenches. They don't wanna be going on site and dealing with all that stuff. That's what we do. We have a vertically integrated property management company that manages the day to day, and we're really good at finding great opportunities and great markets, and really putting forth the operational.

Magic to turn it around, like buying in the right areas. Be able to breathe new life into a community, which typically equates to investing a lot of capital, lots of dollars back into it. Redoing roads, redoing infrastructure amenities. Bringing new homes into these communities and just breathing new life into them.

But invest with sunrise.com that's the best place to learn more about that. Our company is Sunrise Capital Investors. You can get a lot of details there about the current offering as well as things we've historically done. We've got a lot of information there, so you can learn quite a bit about us and who we are, what we do in the manufacture, housing, and also the parking space.

Mike Stohler: Yeah. Are these, generally long-term holds? Five to seven years or longer or, what's the deal look like?

Kevin Bupp: I'd say that, we've gone full cycle on quite a number of deals. However, both mobile home parks and parking are a unique asset class in that.

They're not really making more of them. We have found that every year that we sell something, it becomes inherently more difficult for us to find a good, solid replacement property that can meet those same return metrics. While we might have a big exit and everyone's happy when they get checks, every time we've exited, it also creates a capital event, which also creates a tax event, right?

And so it's good to get big paychecks. It's good to take chips off the table. However, we've determined our business model. It is really morphed more towards long-term. We have a long-term vision, 10+ years, so everything we buy, not saying that we won't sell anything, but we like to take a look at it as will we want to own this, not just in three to five years, but do we see this being a great fit for a portfolio in 10+ years?

Our investor base is very much in alignment with that. So like our ideal investor who brings money to us is that, " Hey Kevin, I want the mailbox money." I'd love for you to hit it outta the park, but I'm not looking.

I want wealth preservation. I want good assets in great markets, and I don't necessarily want you call me every three to five years telling me that you've sold something because while you've sold me on the tax benefits on the frontend, now I got this depreciation recaption, I've got even bigger problem in my hands three to five years down the road.

And that's real. Like everyone likes to say, if you pay a lot of tax, that's a good problem. You made a lot of money like. That's kind of bullshit. That's not a good excuse. So we have morphed our focus onto more longer term holds and found our investment group that has that longer term vision.

They're not trying to hit triples and home runs. Now they just want singles and doubles and they want that consistent cash flow for a very long time. But have it being held in physical assets that are great market and great location. And those are very hard to replace because they're not making more of what we buy.

When we find it, we like to hold onto it for as long as possible.

Mike Stohler: Yeah. That's very similar to hotels. It's more of a business. People say, "Hey, you know, you put lipstick on it." I'm like, "No, it's hotel's a little bit different. It's not a fix-and-flip."

Very few. And it's yeah, it's the same ladies, gentlemen, if you're looking to diversify your portfolio and a lot of my investors, a lot of Kevin's investors are the type that don't really necessarily want that quick thing. They don't need more cash flow.

They want a long-term hold and just something that's safe down the road and just a few bucks here and there.

Kevin Bupp: They might want cash flow, but it doesn't need to be like 12% on an annual basis. If they're okay, "Hey, gimme 6%." Knowing that also, there's a lot of sweat equity's being built there.

It's an asset that's irreplaceable. It's gonna inherently grow in value over the years, and decades that we own it. Don't get me wrong, when we started off, we always felt as though everyone was driven by the highest returns, and that's great.

Like, hitting massive home runs or grand slams. It inevitably happens no matter what you do, you're gonna find one every once in a while. That's just, a rockstar of a deal. And that's great and all, but it's really hard to go back and replace that again and again and again.

Especially at least in our asset class. Maybe it's a little different, like multifamily because there's so much new supply always coming, right? That's just not the case in the two asset classes that we're investing in. They're not making new parking, and they're not making new mobile home parks.

In fact, both those asset classes have a diminishing supply. The supply is continually going down and down, which creates more demand for it, but also there's more competition buying those assets and so makes it harder for us to go out and find the next great one.

We like to keep what we have.

Mike Stohler: Yeah. Kevin, where else can people find you before we leave?

Kevin Bupp: I'm very active on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook, and my last name's fairly unique. BUPP, it's Bupp. So if you just type in, Kevin Bupp, you can quickly track me down.

My personal website, kevinbupp.com. There you can just learn more about me, personal level. But I also host my Real Estate Investing for Flow Podcast there. It's a commercial real estate investment podcast. We're going on our 11th year now, so we've got quite a number of episodes up there.

You can download those there as well as iTunes and Stitcher and Spotify, wherever else folks download podcasts.

Mike Stohler: Is there anything else that maybe I haven't covered that you'd like to tell our listeners?

Kevin Bupp: No, I don't think so. I think we covered some good ground. I appreciate you having me on, appreciate what you do here. You did a great job, just keep it up.

We talked about getting information. This is how folks like you and me and others that host podcasts are putting out quality information for free. Take advantage of it.

Mike Stohler: That's right.

Kevin Bupp: All it takes is time for you, right? Not for you, but for the listeners. It's your time. Your time is valuable. But if you're learning something valuable, then I could promise you it's well worth it.

Mike Stohler: And most of us have a commute, so just pop it in, listen to it, stream it in the car.

Kevin, thank you so much for coming on The Richer Geek Podcast. Have a wonderful night.

Kevin Bupp: Thanks Mike. Thanks for having me.

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ABOUT KEVIN BUPP

Kevin Bupp is a Florida-based real estate investor, top Apple podcast host, and bestselling author of The Cashflow Investor, with over $300 million in real estate transactions. With 20+ years of experience, he has identified mobile home parks and parking lots as top investment opportunities. Through his podcast, Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow, he educates millions on profitable commercial real estate strategies.

As the founder of Sunrise Capital Investors, Kevin provides passive investors access to commercial real estate opportunities to build legacy wealth and achieve financial freedom. Beyond investing, he gives back through the 72 Hours to Key West charity bike ride, which has provided thousands of holiday meals to families in need.